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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Charcoal and Pencil Drawings - Techniques by J.D. Hillberry Topic #420

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Colin

Member since Jan-1-03
92 posts, 2 feedbacks,

Jan-22-03, 02:34 PM ()

"Hair trouble day !"

I'm far from happy with my Daughters hair in this Portrait, I've talked her into changing her style for the sake of Art

Can'nt say if this is the real answer but i have tried , All advice welcome .
FRs
Colin.

"Slow and steady wins the day !"

Marc Forest

Member since Aug-23-02
285 posts, 14 feedbacks, 27 points

Jan-22-03, 02:54 PM ()

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1. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Hey Colin. Bad hair day huh? I think it looks good, maybe just continue in the direction your going and just add more of the finer hair around the crown of her head. You know the little strands inbetween the spikes that are already there.

also, I would pull some more highlights on the left side of her hair (Her left) and some shadow to the top that will give it some added definition . Great hair!!

Marc Forest.
http://www.marcforest.com

Colin

Member since Jan-1-03
92 posts, 2 feedbacks,

Jan-22-03, 06:05 PM ()

2. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Thanks for the advice Marc I have tried to follow your instuctions i'm finding it hard to pull the highlights from her hair, i can stop touching them in again to add the detail

i think it is looking better already , i'll keep at it , thanks again. BTW in your Artist view the detail is stunning the eye looks so wet have you used chacoal for the pupil ?
FRs
Colin.

"Slow and steady wins the day !"

dhesse

Member since Dec-27-02
174 posts, 6 feedbacks,

Jan-22-03, 06:10 PM ()

3. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

I agree with Marc. This is looking very nice! Just needs the darkest areas added. It appears from the photo that the mid top of her head is almost as dark as the coat, as well as the shadow areas under the strands.

The face is rendered beautifully!

Thank you
D.L. Hesse
www.artinpencil.com

Bella

Member since Sep-13-02
347 posts, 4 feedbacks,

Jan-22-03, 07:09 PM ()

4. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Hi Colin, you're coming along fantastic!
as far as the hair goes I'm struggling with that too

Marc has given some great advice there... there is one thing that I've spotted tho... the chin on the right hand side is slightly out.

keep at it!!

He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.
St Fancis of Assisi

Momzart
Member since Jan-21-03
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Jan-22-03, 09:05 PM ()

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5. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

WOW! I think this is just great!

I would like to know how you get your portrait to look
so smooth? What kind of ground? (paper) Pencils?

Keep up the good work, I think your are almost there!

Neysa

Marc Forest

Member since Aug-23-02
285 posts, 14 feedbacks, 27 points

Jan-22-03, 10:19 PM ()

6. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Man!!! what a tough hair style to draw! It's looking great!

Colin it's up to you how far you want to go. You could spend hours upon hours molding.

As far as the highlights go, if you want to "pop" them I use a pen eraser cut square and run the edge down the individual strands and pull the highlight that way. I've attached a pic to show the tool. this works great for me. Give it a rip!

BTW. I did use ritmo charcoal on my pupil. worked great!

Peace!
Marc Forest.
http://www.marcforest.com

Melissa_M

Member since Aug-23-02
326 posts, 6 feedbacks,

Jan-23-03, 00:07 AM ()

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7. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Yeah, that hairstyle must be hard to draw! You're doing good, though.
I noticed what Bella did, about the right side of the chin being the wrong shape (it rounds out more in the photo).

- Melissa (aka: Honey Bee)

proximaserpentis
Member since Sep-14-02
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Jan-23-03, 02:48 AM ()

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8. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

I drew similar hair on my very first portrait attempt, when I started drawing. Here is the link to the pic:

http://leo.cuckoos.net/gallery/portraits/digit_final

Here I used hb and 2b, and left the highlighted areas blank with great effort. Then I blended, lifted highlights with putty eraser, filles texture (following the strands direction) with 2b mechanical pencil.

You need to darken the strands that look dark in the pic, tho. it's looks good so far.

Colin

Member since Jan-1-03
92 posts, 2 feedbacks,

Jan-23-03, 06:29 AM ()

9. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Thanks to all for thr advice i'm on to that chain Bella well spotted something was bugging me but i could'nt put my finger on it , now i can see it was the chin ,

Love your work Leona that hair is close ! .
Marc thanks for the tip with the eraser , at first glance i assumed you had posted a bottle of hair conditioner until i realised it was the nib of a pencil or pen

. i'll go back to work on it now ,
FRs
Colin.

"Slow and steady wins the day !"

Marc Forest

Member since Aug-23-02
285 posts, 14 feedbacks, 27 points

Jan-23-03, 02:05 PM ()

10. "RE: Hair trouble day !"

Quote Marc thanks for the tip with the eraser , at first glance i assumed you had posted a bottle of hair conditioner until i realised it was the nib of a pencil or pen . i'll go back to work on it now ,
FRs
Colin.

LOL:7 Pop the cork! Give it a try!

Marc Forest.
http://www.marcforest.com

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