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Momzart
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Jan-21-03, 08:26 PM ()

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"Tyler... A Work in Progress"

After looking at all of the wonderful drawings on this site, I realized that Tyler needed a little more work. I would greatly appreciate any comments or suggestions that any of you may have. I usually do pastel portraits so I am new to pencil drawings. Thank you for your guidance! ~Neysa!

Marc Forest

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Jan-21-03, 09:47 PM ()

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1. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

HI Neysa. I Really like what I'm seeing here for a foundation, evrything is right where it needs to be, the rest is a decision on how far and to what level you wish to take it.

Right now the drawing is very monotone, there's not a lot of contrast and contrast is everything to a drawing. The one comment I see most in this forum is artist afraid to go "to dark". Afraid to add Deep shadow for fear they will go to far. This exactly what this piece needs, a shadow push! And that's pretty much it!

I Usually use Charcoal for my shadows, a lot of people use 6-b Graphite. It's your call. This is your masterpiece! Just build your shadows slowly and blend them out with cotton or chamious. Do this and you won't push it to far. I've attached your drawing after some photoshop work to show my point.

I really think you will see Tyler leap off the page!

Have Fun!

Marc Forest.
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Momzart
Member since Jan-21-03
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Jan-22-03, 10:41 AM ()

2. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Hi Mark,
Thanks so much for the imput. That is just what I thought I needed to do. I think that it is a fear of going to dark. I have been told that I have a light hand. I wll get to work on it and
repost to see what you think!
Neysa

The enhance ment helped me to see where to put the darks.
Thanks again!

Melissa_M

Member since Aug-23-02
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Jan-22-03, 12:44 PM ()

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3. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Welcome to the forum, Neysa!
Marc had a very good suggestion. Another thing I noticed was that the right ear (the boy's left) looks too big in your drawing.
Also, the mouth looks too wide open...But that's not necessarily a problem, because he could have a different expression in your drawing.
Overall, it's looking good!

- Melissa (aka: Honey Bee)

Momzart
Member since Jan-21-03
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Jan-23-03, 02:49 PM ()

4. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Hi Everyone:)
I did some more work on Tyler. I did some darkening ( I tried the charcoal idea, I liked it) and I adjusted the right (his left) ear. what do you think?
Thanks for the help!

Marc Forest

Member since Aug-23-02
285 posts, 14 feedbacks, 27 points

Jan-23-03, 03:10 PM ()

5. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Excellent!!!! Now we're starting to see some shape! Are you pleased? I would be. You've made some nice moves here.

Marc Forest.
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Momzart
Member since Jan-21-03
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Jan-23-03, 04:55 PM ()

6. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Hi Marc,
Do you think that it is enough? I'm not sure. I do like it though. It made a huge difference to add the darker tones, made it pop out more. Any other suggestions or should I leave it alone. I am going to post his brother soon. That one is giving me a much harder time. Thanks again:)
Neysa

Marc Forest

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Jan-23-03, 05:24 PM ()

7. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Quote Hi Marc,
Do you think that it is enough? I'm not sure. I do like it though. It made a huge difference to add the darker tones, made it pop out more. Any other suggestions or should I leave it alone. I am going to post his brother soon. That one is giving me a much harder time. Thanks again:)
Neysa

Hi Neysa.

It's hard for me to tell looking at the photo. You really want to cover every range of tones, 0-100% That will balance out your drawing. do a final visual look at it right next to your drawing. are all the highlights there, are all the midtone(50%) values in your drawing as well as the shadows you just added. If so you you should have a well balanced three demensional piece.

Below i've posted a scale I created to demonstrate my thought process when i choose what pencil i use for range of value. I use charcoal, graphite and carbon pencils in all my drawings.

Peace!
Marc Forest.
http://www.marcforest.com

vicklyn_

Member since Nov-21-02
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Jan-24-03, 03:27 PM ()

8. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Neysa like the way this is coming along ....keep at it ...it's looking good.
vickie

Momzart
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Jan-24-03, 08:32 PM ()

9. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Here is my latest attempt to bring Tyler to life.
What do you think? Are the highlights too much in the eyes?

Thanks for the nice comments!

gleninca

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Jan-24-03, 11:08 PM ()

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10. "RE: Tyler... A Work in Progress"

Neysa, again a well a executed drawing, I agree with Marc that you need to push the darks.
I think the ear could be made a little smaller, one of those things to do with camera angles, sometimes we have to alter photo images, so that they "make sense" to the eye when translating them into a drawing.

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