Home - Artograph - What do you think
Home The Artist Workshop Community Contact View Cart Newsletter    
ALEXEI ANTONOV PAINTINGS
painting_Birth_of_the_colorPortrait_Ninapainting_Applespainting_ants_paradisepainting_Bavarian_motifpainting_Bouquetpainting_Candy_boxpainting_Rose_in_the_freshnosPortrait_Tanya
Subject: "Artograph - What do you think" Archived thread - Read only
 
         
Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Charcoal and Pencil Drawings - Techniques by J.D. Hillberry Topic #382
Reading page 1 of 1 pages
Glenn click here to view user rating
Member since Nov-14-02
52 posts, 1 feedbacks,
Jan-12-03, 04:31 PM ()
Click to EMail Glenn Click to send private message to Glenn  
"Artograph - What do you think"
 
Hi All,
I am thinking about buying an artograph for use in my drawings.
I was wondering if any of you have had any experiences of these and what your opinions are.
Mike I would like yours as I know that you use one.


Do you think it is worth me buying one and I am still an amatuer with pencil drawing.

Any comments welcomed

Experience is that marvellous thing that enables you recognise a mistake
when you make it again

http://www.pencilworks.co.uk


 
mike sibleymoderator
Member since Nov-19-02
237 posts, 6 feedbacks,
Jan-12-03, 06:41 PM ()
Click to EMail mike%20sibley Click to send private message to mike%20sibley  
1. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
I can highly recommend them Glenn. They save hours of compositional work, they ensure accuracy, they allow "what ifs" to be tested (for example: project one dog's head onto another's body to see if it would work).... the list is endless.

I have an Artograph DB300. It's a huge animal that sits on a spring-assisted column and can take images up to 10" x 11".

Artograph don't seem to make anything like it these days but one did turn up on eBay last year so it's worth keeping an eye open in that direction.

If you end up with a DB300 (or if anyone is interested) I'll send you a revised wiring diagram - I made a modification that makes it much more flexible and it hasn't blown a photoflood in 12 years (which it regularly did).

I hear the Tracer is a good model although I've no personal experience.

MIKE

www.SibleyFineArt.com
www.Starving-Artists.net


 
Glenn click here to view user rating
Member since Nov-14-02
52 posts, 1 feedbacks,
Jan-12-03, 07:02 PM ()
Click to EMail Glenn Click to send private message to Glenn  
2. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Thanks Mike,

I have been looking at the Design Master Version, but they are so expensive over here in the UK, and to get them from the US works out just as bad.
I don't suppose you know anywhere that sell them cheaper do you?

Regards
Glenn

Experience is that marvellous thing that enables you recognise a mistake
when you make it again

http://www.pencilworks.co.uk


 
itoy click here to view user rating
Member since Aug-29-02
149 posts, 2 feedbacks,
Jan-12-03, 07:48 PM ()
Click to EMail itoy Click to send private message to itoy  
3. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Glenn, Mike, pardon for my ignorance but I'm pretty sure that artograph is different from the one that I own pantograhp because you are talking about wirings. If you guys happend to have a picture can you post it so I can have an idea about it. Thanks and God bless.

itoy


 
Glenn click here to view user rating
Member since Nov-14-02
52 posts, 1 feedbacks,
Jan-12-03, 07:57 PM ()
Click to EMail Glenn Click to send private message to Glenn  
4. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Itoy.

Here is the Info on a Artograph

The DesignMaster™ comes complete with an easy to attach adjustable stand. For tabletop projection, simply clamp the stand to any table or work area. Copyboard has two stainless steel clips to hold copy securely and safely effective copy area (41/2" x 6"). It enlarges and reduces with one reversible lens from 4 times down to 70% onto the tabletop. Removed from the stand, it projects horizontally up to 30 times the original size.

http://www.discountart.co.uk/

Type in Artograph in the search engine on the site, then click on one of the red buttins for more info

Experience is that marvellous thing that enables you recognise a mistake
when you make it again

http://www.pencilworks.co.uk





 
mike sibleymoderator
Member since Nov-19-02
237 posts, 6 feedbacks,
Jan-13-03, 09:44 AM ()
Click to EMail mike%20sibley Click to send private message to mike%20sibley  
5. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Quote Glenn, Mike, pardon for my ignorance but I'm pretty sure that artograph is different from the one that I own pantograhp because you are talking about wirings. If you guys happend to have a picture can you post it so I can have an idea about it.

Itoy, I only have a low-res image of the DB300 but it should give you an idea of what it consists of.

MIKE

www.SibleyFineArt.com
www.Starving-Artists.net





 
Phil
Member since Aug-26-02
6 posts, 6 feedbacks,
Jan-13-03, 09:48 AM ()
Click to EMail Phil Click to send private message to Phil  
6. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Im curious ?

Does this thing work like a photography projector? If so when drawing around the image doesn't your hand get in the way and distrort the image?

We used to use a Grant camera at college which projects from underneath up to a sheet of glass so that problem never ocurred.

www.graphite-art.com


 
mike sibleymoderator
Member since Nov-19-02
237 posts, 6 feedbacks,
Jan-13-03, 09:52 AM ()
Click to EMail mike%20sibley Click to send private message to mike%20sibley  
7. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Quote ...they are so expensive over here in the UK, and to get them from the US works out just as bad.
I don't suppose you know anywhere that sell them cheaper do you?

I bought mine second-hand from a graphic artist who changed his model every three years.

But..... pinned into the front cover of the manual is the following...

Original shipping label from Artograph to UK distributor -
Frisk Products
c/o Trojan Forwarding
265 Barking
London E13

And this would have been the eventual retailer -
Sim-Air Graphics Equipment Ltd
47 Stanningley Road
Leeds
LS12 3LR
(0532) 799161 -- (NB: Leeds tel code has now changed)

Please remember that I've had this machine for at least 15 years so I can't vouch for any of the above. GOOD HUNTING!


MIKE

www.SibleyFineArt.com
www.Starving-Artists.net


 
mike sibleymoderator
Member since Nov-19-02
237 posts, 6 feedbacks,
Jan-13-03, 10:06 AM ()
Click to EMail mike%20sibley Click to send private message to mike%20sibley  
8. "RE: Artograph - What do you think"
 
Quote Does this thing work like a photography projector? If so when drawing around the image doesn't your hand get in the way and distrort the image?

Artwork, photos, drawings, whatever... go into the back of the DB300 on the hinged pin-board. All the advice says never put your source behind glass - but I always do. You can even stand 3D objects on the board if it's hinged down flat.

The DB300 contains two 150 watt photofloods (the new Artographs seem to use lower wattage filament bulbs, which worries me a little). These illuminate the source and the reflected light hits a large front-silvered mirror, which turns the light through 90 degrees and through the downward-projecting lens.

Enlargement and focus is achieved in two ways...

1. by the wheel under the main body. This moves the art holder forwards and backwards on rails. The lens is fixed.
2. By lowering and raising the whole body, which sits on a spring-assisted column. The body can be brought down almost to the table surface and as high as 3 feet above it.

You can also lift off the body, turn it on its side and replace it on the column. It will now project sideways with a maximum enlargement potential of 35 times.


MIKE

www.SibleyFineArt.com
www.Starving-Artists.net


 


Powered by 2checkout.com (Accept Credit Cards Company) Copyright © 2007 artpapa. All Rights Reserved.