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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Charcoal and Pencil Drawings - Techniques by J.D. Hillberry Topic #369
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Bella click here to view user rating
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"Dad (WIP)"
 
I feel like I'm getting totally lost in this drawing and would love some direction/feedback..... I was going to put it on the backburner but I've decided stick at it till it's finished.
There is so much wrong with this drawing, I feel a little embarrased posting it. .


He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.
St Fancis of Assisi






 
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1. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
Bella your being too hard on yourself, I think its coming up great. You've definately nailed the likeness, and that sparkle is there too. I would keep at it , I think the further you go the happier you will be with it.
Don't give up , it's great work so far!
Jenni

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2. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
Thanks Jenni
To me when I look at it..... the hair, mouth, nose, chin and left hand eye looks completely different than the reference pic... then when I work on it.... it just doesn't work with me
basicly everything to me looks out but the right hand eye

He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.
St Fancis of Assisi


 
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3. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
It's looking really good Bella. The only suggestion I have is to take a kneaded eraser and lighten up the brighter areas on his face, then take some charcoal and darken the shadows, ie. corners of smile. I think it would really bring out the likeness of the photo. I hope this makes some sence.

Eric


 
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Jan-09-03, 01:46 AM ()
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4. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
   I agree with Jenni, Bella. You are being WAY, WAY too hard on yourself. That tells me that you have poured your heart and soul into this drawing. And it shows. This is an excellent drawing, your best so far in my opinion. My only suggestions would be to darken the shadows and the hair (especially on the left) and pull out a few highlights. The next step would be to add texture to the skin.

Bill


 
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5. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
I agree with Bill in just about everything. In particular I'd increase the contrast. Deepening the shadow tones will emphasise the wrinkles more and will increase the intensity of the highlights. I think all that's missing here is a degree of three-dimensional shaping...... and age! You seem to have knocked 20 years off him but given him white hair

Bringing out the wrinkles will give him back his maturity and giving him back his black hair will restore his crowning glory!

The only actual physical change I would make is to the mouth. I think you have drawn it a little too forward looking. His head is turned away yet you have drawn its full width. There is a line extending out of the right (his right) side of his mouth which is not evident in the photo. cut this line back so it no longer extends beyond the bottom lip and I think this is all it requires. Just increasing the contrasts should take care of everything else.

Oh, and his chin is looking a little wide. At his right side you have a continuous line going from the chin and up the cheek. Actually a line ascends from the chin towards the temple - the cheek is on a separate plane behind that.

Don't give up .... this is coming along very well!

MIKE

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6. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
I'm jumping on the band wagon. This is looking fantastic!

But... I agree with Mike and bill, you need to add some age to this drawing and depth of shadow. I think you will love the outcome. Take your time on the wrinkles!

It really is coming along nicely.

Marc Forest.
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7. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
I've printed out everyones advice ..I'm going to work on it today

Thanks for great feedback

He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.
St Fancis of Assisi


 
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8. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
I worked for several hours on this portrait today
I've still got a bit to do, thanks for the input guy's...there is one thing I'm finding difficult tho.... trying to figure out how to make the hair look realistic where you attach it to the forehead.

My 12 year old son loves to draw..he drew this rhino and asked if he could post it.
I think he did an exellent job

He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.
St Fancis of Assisi









 
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Jan-10-03, 11:14 AM ()
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9. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
Bella, this is awesome! Looks just like the reference. Now just add some sharp dark tones and edges and use a bit of Blu-tack (or something like it) and its sooo cool.

That rhino is the best rhino Ive ever seen (thought I havent seen too many yet). I hope they are in the nature as happy as this one seen here

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10. "RE: Dad (WIP)"
 
Bella, it looks fantastic!!! The rhino is absolutely amazing for such a young artist!!!

I think you captured your father exceptionally well, especially that sparkle he has in the ref. pic. The added contrast really makes him pop out of the page.

Hang this baby up with pride!!! It's magnificent!!

Thank you
D.L. Hesse
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