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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Charcoal and Pencil Drawings - Techniques by J.D. Hillberry Topic #320
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Dec-29-02, 10:05 PM ()
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""The Great Albert Einstein""
 
   This is another piece I worked on for around 200 hours. It was a commission, and one that I dare never to tackle again. I think I'll try to see what my portraits look like with a lighter background. The actual drawing measures 18" x 24" using Ebony and Derwent medium and dark wash pencils with a few 2-6b's for the lighter tones. Sorry for the somewhat out of focus image. The original is much sharper. As usual, all comments, questions, or critques are welcomed. Cheers! R.C.D.





 
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   Hi, it's me Toby from the old forum. I really like this drawing because of the lights & darks. What paper did you use for this drawing, since you used watersoluble graphite pencils?

Toby


 
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   I actually came across a photo I'd like to try to draw that is very black, where a side of the face and hair kind of melts into the black background. It kind of reminded me of your work, and thought I'd try to tackle it with maybe a little of your fantastic style. Can you give me a few hints about how you did the background. Did you do lots of layers? Is it blended with something? Did you spray fixative and then apply more darks? Any tips would be helpful. Thanks!


 
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   Hi Toby, I used Strathmore 100lb. Bristol with lots of fixative. I find that the Bristol, (with it's smooth texture) allows me to blend with ease. And for it's ability to bring out extra sharp lines (although you can't tell from the scan).
Cheers! Rob D.


 
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   Hey Jay, First of all, I'd like to applaud you in wanting to tackle a drawing such as the one you decribed. In order for me to get the Einstein to look that way, I did the following things.
I finished drawing the image first, but kept the kept the overall contrast to a minimum. I then began to add along the outside or edge of the image (including his hands) with dark wash and Ebony. I purposely kept the contrast around his hair light because I needed to save that for the end. I then began the tedious task of layering the rich "Black" in the background, (about 3-4 layers) note: There is no charcoal in this particular drawing. After "Filling in" the dark values around his face and hands, I went back to add even more contrast to his face itself, mostly around the eyes since this is the focal point. Unfortunately, I have not found a substitute for getting this part of the portrait done quicker. Careful when you work with that much graphite, as the dust tends to get everywhere. I sometimes put tiny pieces of masking tape on and around the eyes beforehand, this allows me to go back and keep the "reflection" in the eyes (and other areas) as "white" as possible. Especially if the overall picture is predominently dark. Careful when working with this kind of composition, as "SHADOWS" play an important role. Also, be careful with the transition of your dark to light tones, it can easily look "artificial" without a large range of value. It's understandable why some artists are somewhat apprehensive about adding too much contrast to their portraits. It's always easier to "add" more to a drawing if you want to, but it's almost impossible to erase a dark area (without it being noticible) once you've drawn it. In my opinion, If the original looks good with a dark background, then so will the drawing. I've been lucky, having to throw away only 1 drawing that turned out wrong after adding too much "Black/ contrast".
My old art teacher used to say.."If you are drawing from a reference picture, try to draw EXACTLY what you see, but more important, EXACTLY as you see it."
My number one piece of advice for tackling something like "Einstein" is to really SLOOWWW down. And keep an eye on it in the mirror. It's easy to allow the pic to become unbalanced or out of proportion without reference points. Hope this helps Jay. Good luck! I'd like to see it when it's done.
Cheers! R.C. Dominguez


 
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Hello mentisman.....finally i can comment on the great work you do...i seen it a lot in the old forum,but i cant post there anymore after i sighned into this new one,...i also remember the old man and old woman ,....very unique syle of realism in them,its nice to finally hear about your tecnique's.

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   Hey absolute, thanks a bunch for the compliment. When are you going to post something complete yourself? I only found one of your posts. Looks good so far. When do you expect to finish? Do you have others? Sorry about not being able to post on the old forum. I have not tried that myself, now that I'm here. As for my "Unique stlye" (as you and a few others have put it) is not really all that complicated. Unfortunately, there is not a definite way to convey ALL of the nuances, and intricasies involved in a pencil portrait from start to finish. Where knowledge gained from a formal art education ends, is where skill, natural talent, and creativeness begin.
The secret (in my opinion) is to be extremely patient and deliberate, working with one section at a time. Where as the degree of realism, is directly proportional to the amount of "time" invested into your project. Don't be nervous about adding plenty of contrast, but keep in mind, it's important to work very slow. Simply because it's very difficult to "undo" an Ebony mistake once you've made one. This is why it may take ME up to 12 hours to complete one aspect of the portrait, (for example, one eye.) You might also try to see what your work looks like under different kinds and shades light, i.e. florescent, incandescent. That is of course if your interested in capturing more that just a "Likeness" of your subject.
Cheers! R.C.D.


 
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My H at comes of to you Man ! well done this is a fine work to be proud of ,

FRs
Colin.

"Slow and steady wins the
day !"
"The artist must first learn diligence"
Leonardo DaVinci
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Feb-24-03, 02:54 PM ()
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8. "RE: "The Great Albert Einstein""
 
If I didn't know better I would swear it had been taken with a camera.Great work.I like your technigue.
vickie


 
BECCA
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Hi there, I saw your drawing in the old forum (while I was silently viewing all the posts trying to figure out how to join in) - fabulous!! You've given me a new standard to strive for. Love the blacks and detail, very bold with great style.

"We must become the change we want to see" - Gandhi

Becca


 
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   Thank you very much Colin, Vicklyn, and Becca! I really appreciate the kinds words, especially coming from other talented artists as yourselves. I kind of envy the fact that some of the other folks here finish their work alot faster than I do. Unfortunately the techniques I use have not changed much since I first began to draw. Maybe If I could feel more comfortable at trying different techniques it would help speed the process up some. But then again...why reinvent the wheel?
Cheers! R.C. Dominguez


 


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