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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Charcoal and Pencil Drawings - Techniques by J.D. Hillberry Topic #306
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"materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
   Any specific advice on which pencils, charcoal, paper, sharpeners, erasers to get? If you know a good web site to get them that would be appreciated to? What kind of pencil sharpener is acceptable? Does it matter?

What else do you think I need to get started?

I just ordered the 3 books reccomended to me in my last post. Thanks for the help there.

-gene


 
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1. "RE: materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
SpaceCake, tools and papers just make a combo that suits or suits not your drawing style. Just have to find out what works best for you. Check out all quality stuff at your local paperstore. btw, I love to carve pencils with my knife

http://www.mattikataja.com


 
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2. "RE: materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
Hi SpaceCake,

I wish you well in your journey. I must say you've come to a great place for encouragement and advice.

If you are truly at the "beginning" stage. I recommend you get a small drawing kit from your local department store or art store. It will have an assortment of pencils and a small sharpener and erase (get a "kneading eraser"). Get a sketch book and start drawing, unless you are especially blessed with talent you will have hours, days , and months of practice drawings, some good many not so good. As you progress you will find things that work and things that don't, then you can purchase better quality materials, because quality makes a difference in your tools as well as your time spent.

Don't give up.

Read as much of this forum as you can get to. Practice copying some of the example shown here. Read and DO the exercises in "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain". I am emphasiing "DO" the exercises.

Post you stuff regularly here, good or bad. and finally...

Don't give up. (your girlfriend will be glad you didn't)

Steve


 
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3. "RE: materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
You could always check out dickblick.com to get an idea of what is all available. Taking note of what artist's here use for material is always very helpful.

Paper is a personal journey! If it is just for sketching and practicing you could use any acid free, artist paper. For professional drawings you will need to step up to the higher quality papers like Arches 140 Hot Press, or cold press, or heavy watercolor paper.

Good luck and be sure to post your work so we can be a part of your artistic development!

Thank you
D.L. Hesse
www.artinpencil.com


 
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4. "RE: materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
   Hi SpaceCake,

Everyone's advice here seems to encapsulate any I would offer - just trying every brand, mixing and matching until you get a combo of tools that you feel most comfortable working with or you feel brings out your talents.

It also depends on what you would like to do - sketching, drawing and detailwork, drawing in colour, plein aire sketches ... the long train of possibilities.

Another factor would be how you feel about your drawing skills. Practice ... if you're just starting out, it might be a good idea to do quick little studies with drawing pencils in black and white (b/w) first, as exercises to build observation skills, confidence and focus, before you begin worrying about issues with colour schemes, mixing and tones that another medium may bring.

If you're really, totally, lost ...

Most people find a set of drawing pencils with a range of brightness (or rather, darkness) and hardness useful. There are 12-pencil sets that range from 8B or 6B, to 2H - versatile for most drawing needs. Or you can go for those specialised sets with both b/w or coloured pencils for specific subjects, e.g. landscape.

Coloured pencils - (and no, I'm not "sponsoring" any brand or company) Prismacolour (referring to the regular, not scholar edition) is one of the brands that blend most easily, feels waxier.
Examples of other media alternatives for drawing ... charcoal, conte, chalk, soft pastels, etc.

Some more stores (there's plenty out there, virtual and "real" - just call them up from your search engine of preference) :

http://www.abovegroundartsupplies.com
http://www.cheapjoes.com
http://www.currys.com (Canada)
http://www.danielsmith.com
http://www.utrechtart.com

Just surf around and see what you can find. Same thing goes for things from supports (paper, canvas ...?) to acessories like fixatives (if you're using media that rubs off easily) ...


Hope that helped. Good luck, have fun, and keep at it!

Hedgeworth


 
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5. "RE: materials (pencils, etc..) advice please??"
 
hello spacecake,...ive tried bristol smooth,vellum, and strathmores charcoal paper...the only kind i like is strathmore 400 8o lb,....i think it has some wood pulp in it...im not sure if that can cause paper to turn yellow over time or not?...but its fun paper to work with,...cause its easy to blend on,and one side is slightly smoother for areas that you dont want to blend,..you should check it out.

www.geocities.com/woodart211


 


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