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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Animal and Wildlife drawing with Mike Sibley. Topic #633
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moodman
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Apr-13-03, 03:25 PM ()
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"Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   Hey everyone, I use a kneeded eraser and it works pretty good, but I wish it lifted out the highlights better than it does.
Does anyone use one vs the other and / or thinks one is better than the other????
I really want your opinion on this.
thanks to everyone on this.

moodman


 
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Apr-14-03, 08:04 AM ()
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1. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
Kneaded Erasers are good tools to have but they lack the stickiness of Blu-Tack.

Basically, if you form a point in both then touch the point of the kneaded eraser onto an area of graphite and lift it straight up, you will see very little difference. Repeat the exercise with Blu-Tack and you will see that a round area of graphite has been removed. Blu-Tack requires no mechanical action (such as rubbing) to work - a touch is enough - which is why it can fade an area while maintaining the detail.

I haven't used kneaded erasers (which I call Putty Rubbers) for many years but I still remember how they operated.

I should stress that although Blu-Tack is sticky it is not so sticky that it will leave remnants of itself on your drawing. This just doesn't happen. It's this stickiness that you turn to your advantage. If you want to progressively fade a small area, for example, you would dab or roll a piece of Blu-Tack over the area then repeat using the same face of the Blu-Tack. The face will become progressively dirtier as it lifts the graphite so the fading of the area of your drawing will become more and more subtle. Blu-tack really gives infinite control.

Don't regularly throw Blu-Tack away. Older Blu-Tack possesses different qualities from new. It will be years, rather than months, before you need to throw it out. To clean it simply stretch a ball into a long rope (or just pull pieces off) then squash it all back into a ball again.

Sorry, I've forgotten the question and I'm getting carried away.

Oh, perhaps I should tell you that I have vested interest in Blu-Tack because I sell it from my site - but none of the above has any bearing on this

MIKE

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moodman
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Apr-14-03, 11:33 AM ()
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2. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   Thanks Mike, I was hoping that you would reply!!!
I have been on you site many times and love your tut on hair and the advantages of using blu.tak.
I guess I will have to get some then!!!

Thanks again, your moderating of this forum is fantastic!

Moodman


 
lmweil
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Apr-14-03, 07:12 PM ()
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3. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   I use both, but did something strange yesterday. As both blu-tac and my kneadable are the same colour I accidently squished two blobs of each together. Very interesting result... sort of made a sticky kneadable - gave the eraser a bit more tackiness but retained the 'erasing' function. I am going to try out the result on some sample scribbles and see if it is a remarkable discovery, or just a silly mistake... as the blobs were cleanish it may work well, but as it gets dirty I suspect it will smear.

will let you know...

Linda Weil
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4. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   Wow Mike great site and great work, I work with graphite now and then, and I also like to know what other artists work with when drawing or painting, Thanks for sharing, and as far as blue tak is concerned, I have never heard of it, But will definitly be ordering some in the future it sounds very useful.

Again thanks for sharing

Regards Joe Lovett


 
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5. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
Joe, I've got 87 packs of Blu-Tack in stock right now.

How many do you want ...............

Looks like we have another potential member of the Blu-Tack Owners Club

MIKE

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6. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
that sounds very interesting..i think something like that would have came in very handy on the drawing i just did,..kneaded eraser didnt seem to want to take things out very good....rolling it just results in ......nothing im very new to blending things and i need all the help i can get with removing things

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7. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
Quote ...kneaded eraser didnt seem to want to take things out very good....rolling it just results in ......nothing

Jim, I call Blu-Tack a graphite magnet because it picks it up with the merest touch.

Also you can pull it to a really fine point and it cleans up highlights like magic. If you try that with a kneaded eraser you'd need to twist it or rub it or move it in some way on the paper to make it collect graphite grains. But Blu-Tack just needs to be touched to the surface with no mechanical movement required at all.

MIKE

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8. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   howdy Mr Mike,

i usually post at JD's forum, but every now and then i like to take a look here since the stuff here is inspiring too!!

about that blue stuff.....i had bought some last week to try...because ppl sound a big deal of it....well...that stuff didn't really pick much up to tell you the truth, a little less than my kneadable eraser actually. so....i'm wondering...what gives?
i mean hey, it's a great substitute for the putty erasers, and cheaper too (i think), nonetheless, i can't help but wonder what i'm doing dif than you..i know it gets softer as u hold it...maybe there's a trick w/ that? do you lift as it becomes soft, is there some dark obscure secret i'm not aware of? and if there is...wattam i chopped liver?....fill me in guys hehehe

cheers,
Gary


 
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9. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
Hi Gary,

I think you can only get blu-tack in the UK. I looked for it everywhere here (Ontario), couldn't find it, and so I ordered it from Mike. Are you sure you're using the same stuff because Mike's right, it is a graphite magnet. It even removes each layer gradually so you can almost reverse your shading to previous layers. The package is about 4' x 6" and almost flat - made by Bostik.

"We must become the change we want to see" - Gandhi

Becca


 
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10. "RE: Blue tak vs kneeded erasers"
 
   hmmmm i dunno, it's called adhesif reutilisable, for the wall right?....i don't know what brand, i thought they're all the same, i got it from someone else....they look like rectagle sticks..i dunno

cheers
Gary


 


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