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Study and Teach Fine Art Techniques Animal and Wildlife drawing with Mike Sibley. Topic #629
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shoreart
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"WIP - California Cat-UPDATED!!!"
 
LAST EDITED ON Apr-11-03 AT 01:41 AM ()
 
This is one of the commission pieces that is keeping me from finishing my Dudley Moore portrait!

As I said in my introduction, I don't do enough animal portraits yet to get really good at it, but I think this one is coming along ok.

As you can see I tend to jump around alot, working different areas at a time, resulting in different level of completeness. .

Usually it all comes together in the end (or at least that's the idea), but I need to start defining the paws and I don't have any experience with the shorter hairs that are found in this area.

Anyone have any advice or helpful hints? I'd really appreciate it.

Nancy Anthony
Expressive Portraiture & Fine Art
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1. "RE: WIP - California Cat - Advice?"
 
Sorry about that - I have to remind myself to check the jpg box.

Here it is

Nancy Anthony
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2. "RE: WIP - California Cat"
 
Quote ...I need to start defining the paws and I don't have any experience with the shorter hairs that are found in this area. Anyone have any advice or helpful hints? I'd really appreciate it.

This is coming along splendidly, Nancy.

I don't have a definite answer to your question - all I can do is try to tell you what my own approach would be in the hope that it might help.

I'm assuming you're working from a source photo? Well, when you look at the photo you obviously know that the hair is short. And I can see from your under-drawing that you understand the three-dimensional form of the paws. The trick is to ask yourself why you see that hair as being short. Thoroughly analyse what you see until you boil it down to it's main elements. With luck you'll suddenly see what it is that's sending the "this is short hair" message to your brain.

Now you have the vital key, you don't need to be a slave to the photo. Just start drawing so you incorporate and emphasise the magic ingredient. It may not work at first but you'll quickly find your drawing refines itself from the constant feedback. When it looks right it is right so just forge ahead with your newly acquired knowledge and the whole area should almost draw itself.

This technique applies to just about everything. Find the key that's signalling the texture or form to the brain then interpret the photo - never be a slave to it (not that I'm suggestion you are - that was just a general observation ).

Also alter the lighting to best suit what you want to achieve with that area. The shadow behind the cat suggests the photo was taken with a flash, which often destroys detail and flattens form. Use the photo as a guide but set out to recreate the cat, not the photo.


MIKE

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3. "RE: WIP - California Cat"
 
Mike - Thank you for your comments and suggestions I am looking forward to attempting to put them into practice.

I took your advice about the flash and am filling more in on the cats chest - I hope to get to the paws tonight - after work - but the portraits (and that darn still life that Phil got me to start), seem to be calling me just as strongly.

As I said in my other response, I am eager to learn from you and everyone else at this forum, this is my first experience with other artists so I was nervous at first, now I am so eager to draw and post that I'll probably drive you all crazy!!!

Nancy Anthony
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4. "RE: WIP - California Cat"
 
Quote ....now I am so eager to draw and post that I'll probably drive you all crazy!!!

...I bet you won't!

Go on... let's see you try.........


MIKE

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5. "RE: WIP - California Cat"
 
So the guantlet has been thrown down, huh?

Too late to take it back Mike!!!

Actually...I hope you're right - this is one dare I'd really prefer to lose.

Nancy Anthony
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6. "RE: WIP - California Cat"
 
Nancy, I like the expression on your 'happy cat', with Mike's suggestions, I think you'll get the fur happening... Lynne

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7. "RE: WIP - California Cat - Advice?"
 
I liked the other work alot but have to say I love this one.The expression immediately grabs your attention.
vickie


 
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Nancy Anthony
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Thank you everyone....I am so glad that the "expression" and "emotion" that I strive for in my Portraits seems to come through in my animal works also.

I have to admit that I'm getting a bit tired of this one though (and need to ship it to the client - like yesterday j/k LOL).

Here's an update:
I worked the left paw and if you think it's working for this piece please let me know and I'll continue with the right paw (as viewed). I still need to darken and detail some hairs in the head and face (though at this point I don't want it to be too detailed - like the looser feel), and of course to finish the staircase.

Hope I haven't made matters worse!

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9. "RE: WIP - California Cat - Advice?"
 
This is looking just fine!

I'm not sure you need to complete the staircase? I find the loosely drawn background and suggestion of stairs frames the cat very nicely and, because of the contrast, puts visual emphasis on the tightly drawn cat.

I'm just concerned that including too much background might overpower the cat.

And I love that cat's expression!!


MIKE

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10. "RE: WIP - California Cat - Advice?"
 
Nancy Anthony
Expressive Portraiture & Fine Art
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Mike - Thank You! I think I get very nervous doing animals because although I like working hair - fur is a very different story!

Since I started posting here, and have seen all of the wonderful animal art that I'm so jealous of, I have been very nervous about my skills to pull this one off. You have been very helpful and supportive. So much so that I will eagerly start another animal soon, even if one is not commissioned!

Mike you really don't think I have to finish the staircase? Is this a case of that "vagueness" you mentioned before? I do need to detail it a bit more - so as not to confuse the viewer, don't I?


 


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