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"What Is Art?"
 
by Nuala on 10/30/01 at 6:55 PM

Art is a physical product that results from a conscious act of the imagination.

Things that do not fit this definition are not art.

Often, we want to characterize physical things that are pleasing--and that do not fit art's definition--as "art." However, they are not art; they are "artistic."

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by joe on 08/15/02 at 6:03 AM

“Art is that which the heart, the head, and the hand do together.” --Ruskin

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by sreekanth varidhireddy on 06/30/02 at 6:57 PM

Art is a form of expression, Where you express your feelings or message in the form of your profficiency. Infact you would be able to express it a million times better than on can expect.

Is all about art...in simple terms
: Art is a physical product that results from a conscious act of the imagination.

: Things that do not fit this definition are not art.

: Often, we want to characterize physical things that are pleasing--and that do not fit art's definition--as "art." However, they are not art; they are "artistic."


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by art lover on 11/01/01 at 11:43 PM

: Art is a physical product that results from a conscious act of the imagination.

: Things that do not fit this definition are not art.

: Often, we want to characterize physical things that are pleasing--and that do not fit art's definition--as "art." However, they are not art; they are "artistic."
Well doesnt every thing man made result from a concious act of imagination? I wouldnt say that every man made objest is "Art". I dont mean to challenge you too much but what isnt Art by that definition? I say Art can be nearly anything but Fine Art is a different thing entirely. I think that Fine Art is deliberate, calm, permanent, clear or lucid, and grand in scale or depth or degree. An exceptional, man made object of superlative quality at the very least.


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by Scatmanmac on 07/18/02 at 1:28 AM

I'm really confused & would dearly love to hear from anyone who can snwer these questions:-

1)Can categories of art ever be closed?
2)Can art include depiction that disgusts & repels?
3)Artists sell their work, does this have any bearing on whether the article is art?

I do hope some of you will think long & hard about these questions, my freedom depends on it....I am looking at a prison sentence for what I believe to be art.


Regards
Scatmanmac

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by olpaint on 01/12/01 at 10:11 AM

Art is the process, not the product
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by Doogle on 07/21/01 at 9:54 AM

Good Question! Is there an art to making bread?, and is this the same as visual art.. Where is the art in repeating the same Ballet movements over and over to a different tune? and calling it by another name!
In this viewpoint dance may be of a high level of craftsmanship. Viewed by some people, this is defined as art, by me as boring.
From a historical POV artwork was nearly always combined with a high level of craft, and prehistory had it as a magical process.
Abstraction seems to have allowed a leap somewhere to value an explained or evidenced 'concept' without distinguishable form, to be valued as art. Perhaps we should be asking deaf people to explain, without the preconceptions associated with critical waffle.


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by jeoff taylor on 03/24/01 at 10:45 PM

Art is the process, not the product

Science would surely have you believe this? “The decapitation of MAGIK is trendy”

Writing a word is a process in the alphabet/medium! But it is what you say with the word’s in this case (pre*scription) that would make the word art? Postmodernism is funny… looking at roots instead of a flower.


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by Les Hubert on 03/08/01 at 3:26 AM

: Art is the process, not the product

Hello there,
I once heard that art is art when it "stimulates conception and perception". In other words, one must concieve of something new or a new way of seeing the subject, and then allow others to percieve it.
As for those of us out there who, when they look at a work and have absolutely no clue as to its meaning, you can then state without a doubt that the artist has failed, and or what is created is NOT art.
Just my 2 cents.
Regards,
Les


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Patrick on 02/13/01 at 11:38 AM

: Art is the process, not the product

That's an interesting premise, but not one I agree with. I see art not just as the act of creation, but as a form of communication. As such, it needs to reach others, thus it is a product as well as a process.

I've always been bothered by the phrase "art for art's sake". It seems useless and even selfish - it's for the sake of sharing with others, or it may as well stay in the imagination of the artist. Once art has been made real (by the process), the product must be shown to someone, or the act is wasted.

Even if the product is transient or ephemeral, it needs to be seen (heard, felt, tasted) to impart any meaning. And, to go farther, if you have created something you believe in, why not see to it that it lasts as long as possible? I like the feeling that it's a message in a bottle to the future.

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by dave barber on 02/06/01 at 11:05 AM

You wouldn't think so looking at some of the discussions on this site - maybe the laborious scientific approach is enjoyable to some folk?
Why wory about what'll happen to your painting in 200 years time - just get on and enjoy painting now!

Dave

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1. "RE: What Is Art?"
 
   It is questions and answers like these that I have pondered for many years ... right into artists block. Now I feel like nothing I do is art because it doesn't have this great "Message" So now I create nothing.

When I was in college my art teacher told me "subject matter is just a place to hang the paint" He was an abstract artist of sorts by the name of Doug Freed. If you see his work you can see how he comes by this opinion. His paintings sell for around $30,000 a piece.

I switched colleges when I moved and there my art teacher informed his students that a piece without meaning is just a pretty picture. I don't know if he sells anything (it wasn't the point really). But you can see how this leaves one out of sorts.

When I walk through an art museum and I see some of the great masters paintings I can see how they fell into the realm of "pretty pictures". They don't have any great significance, no monumental message. The message is more in their style. Granted some pieces were "about" certain things. Like the picture of a king, or a great battle or the reign of a pope. But it wasn't until possibly Van Gogh that the expression of ones "self" through paint started to become an issue. I guess you could chalk it up to "art growing up"?

I am trying to come to a point in my artistic "career" where I have been thinking. Is is really myself that defines if my works are art? or is it others? or does it matter. Because "what is art" has backed me right into a wall that I can't seem to get out of.


 
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2. "Original provocative synthetic compositions ?"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Apr-12-03 AT 06:23 PM ()
 
I personally find Art that makes a statement; pretentious and/or patronizing e.g. Damien Hurst's pickled cattle.

I strive to produce serious Artwork that reveals my intimate sensibilities as lucidly as I'm able, without appearing smug, contrived or familiar - hoping we can all relate to and benefit something profound from it.

No work of art ever puts forward views. Views belong to people who are not artists. Oscar Wilde


 
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3. "Representative art"
 
   Its a hard call to define art. My take on it is that there are finer and courser ways of affecting the viewer. This is in my opinion the whole point of art.

Representational art, such as a fantastic seascape, will bring up certain emotions that will be related subjectively to the viewers previous experiences.

Exactly the same is true of abstract art. A piece of art which is composed of grey squares will on a blue background cause an emotional reaction in the same way as the seascape, the difference is that the brain cannot 'fit' the image into a previously experienced frame and will instead look on a more animal/basic level.

I find this similar for all art forms, music, poetry ect.

Simon


 


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