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"Action for the Ecology of Culture"
 
Action for the Ecology of Culture is a 1art.com and ArtPapa.com campaign for the revival of the forgotten knowledge and skills, for bringing back the preeminence of craftsmanship unduly neglected in the art of painting, thereby attracting the public's attention to the current imbalance in our cultural life.
Why do we, quite fairly, worry about the environment, about forests and rivers, about quality of food and natural resources, while the spiritual environment of man has been left to take care of itself? Why do museums that we visit with our children are full of "works of art" created for the sake of destruction and ugliness? You may say that Satanism is also religion and as such has the right to exist in the epoch of democracy. Perhaps, but everybody knows what that means and tries to explain that to their children, because democracy cannot ban it yet.

That's why, with all our sense of humor, let's look at political correctness a little more seriously than usually. Is political correctness always good? Is it the result of the pink glasses that were forced on us and we now feel it dangerous to take them off?

The Action for the Ecology of Culture gives you an opportunity to discuss the future of our children, maybe not too loudly, to avoid retaliation.

In a whisper: It is not a secret that most art colleges are subject to the dominance of some "contemporary art" that does not require taking any traditional disciplines by the deceived students. The professor's personal view on art education is the law for the unfortunate student who is deprived of the right of choice. Wouldn't you agree that this reminds of the stone age and does not have anything to do with democracy so much shouted about by the avant-gardists.

Wait, wait!

Does it look as if we decided to ban avant-gardism?
Not at all, it would be historically unnatural and would give a controversial implication to everything that we say.

On the contrary! Dear opponents, the fact that you contribute to the global destruction and decay of culture does not devalue you as members of society. Conversely, it turns you into active participants of the spiritual process. "Unity in struggle." as one of the great said.

Thus, avant-gardists, abstractionists, and other -ists, are invited to participate on the same conditions and with the same rights as the supporters. Action for the Ecology must be fair and diverse. The only conditions for all future authors are intelligence and a sense of humor that leaves no place for rudeness.

It's for our children to see who will last till the 22nd century.


 
fresco
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1. "RE: Action for the Ecology of Culture"
 
I totaly share the opinion of Mr. Antonov. In fact we do not even have to go all the way to the 16th century Europe to see what we about to loose. It is enough to look back for about 50 years. The same thing has already happed here, in the US - and it will become permanent if we are not to do anything. Museums do not care! We artists are the only ones left to correct this.

Please, check "Modern Fresco History 1900-2000" to see where I am coming from with my statement.

http://truefresco.com/history

I also agree with mr. Antonov's statement that we should do it together regardless of our style preference.
If you will take a pic at my own work you should notice that I am far from being classical.

iLia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor

founder of http://www.TrueFresco.com


 
Pappie
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2. "RE: Action for the Ecology of Culture"
 
   Damn well said!


 
Eddie Fication
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3. "Going round in circles"
 
   Whatever happened to "survival of the fittest"?
In today's fast-paced world, we have genetic engineering, space exploration, the ability to travel to the four corners of the globe and of course the World Wide Web. Near photo-realistic, static, oil renderings of ancient myths, esoteric symbols and old fashioned ideals; are perhaps no longer relevant to the lives of modern people.

I'm all for the propagation of the old masters' works/techniques; but I don't feel such anachronisms ought to be given any more prominence than the cutting edge of 21st century Art.


 
fresco
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4. "RE: Going round in circles"
 
Quote I'm all for the propagation of the old masters' works/techniques; but I don't feel such anachronisms ought to be given any more prominence than the cutting edge of 21st century Art.

Sorry I could not help it

Eddie what "cutting edge" and what does this edge "cut"?
It does sound like such a cliche...

a bubble with an edge...

iLia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor

founder of http://www.TrueFresco.com


 
Eddie Fication
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5. "Prominence"
 
   Cutting edge - forefront.


 
fresco
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6. "RE: Prominence"
 
Eddie, another question:

What constitutes "forefront" (in art)?

(I have a dictionary - I thought I should mention it... just in case...)

iLia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor

founder of http://www.TrueFresco.com


 
Eddie Fication
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7. "*sigh*"
 
   i.e. the vanguard.


 
fresco
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8. "RE: *sigh*"
 
OK, what constututes vanguard?

I shall give you a little help:
does it (vanguard) require followers?

iLia Anossov
fresco painter, sculptor

founder of http://www.TrueFresco.com


 
Eddie Fication
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9. "oO(This could go on forever)"
 
   No; it need only be relevant and avant-garde.


 
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10. "RE: Action for the Ecology of Culture"
 
   I would just like to note the prominent fact that life in general is a cycle. Roman art at its apex displayed the love for proportion and realistic grace, yet as the medieval period crept in, the importance of expressing ideas overshadowed the, what in shallow terms we would consider, "aesthetic" qualities of the works of art. (for example, relief engravings of disproportionate Biblical figures on sarcophagi: there was no need to render the figures in a realistic manner for the story contained within the images was what mattered most.) And just for the literal-minded people out there, this does not imply that art was not beautiful during medieval times, it just slid over to the opposite end of the aesthetic spectrum. Centuries later the Renaissance period suddenly came to be, and with it, lo and behold, proportion and realism were "reborn" as well. So it is my belief that humans in general when presented with a consistent stimulus (whether it be visual, tactile, etc.) will grow "bored" of it and begin to search for more engaging and innovative material (hence the fact that there is always a rebellious generation). It just so happens that items from the archive of time will always resurface (just like bell-bottoms recently did). That which has been labeled as "old" and "uninteresting", will become quite the opposite for someone not previously presented with the stimulus. So have no fear, the older works of art and their techniques will never be overshadowed by today's art for there is always a future generation who will grow immune to it and so revive the "dead" pleasures previous art. (and just as a side note, I predict that when this surge of abstract art quells down, realism in some shape or form will take its place in the art world once again, but then be interrupted with another sudden deviation from realistic depiction.... and the cycle continues. "New" and innovative art is hard to come by, but none the less is a possibility. )


 


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