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"Ideas for inspiration. Questions or answers."
 
The Meaning of art, and artist.
Mental drills to build up an artist's self-esteem.
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What images inspired you to paint?
What keeps you from working?
What spurs you to become a successful artist?
How to find a buyer for your million dollar painting
What kind of spouse is most compatible with an artist? Tell us your story!
What are the best ages to begin a career as an artist?
How, where, and when are you understood to be an artist?
What's the dividing line between competition and friendship between artists?
What is good, and what is bad?
Why do artists have a secret and private world they don't like to share with others?


 
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1. "RE: Ideas for inspiration. Questions or answers."
 
i hope people can find this string because there is an ocean of good topics here,,..but the one id like to talk about is ...the fear of showing your own artwork in public,..its easy on the internet because nobody can actually see the face behind the artwork,
and sometimes i thing people that comment on peoples work can be a little too brutal.
because you never know who is trying to show off,or who is really reaching out for help.so i always try to find what i like best about a peice someone did ,unless they REALLY sound convincing about wanting a critique.
cause i think the best way to build an artist is to give them a pat on the bach ,the rest they will learn in time.
---jim

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2. "RE: Ideas for inspiration. Questions or answers."
 
RE: and sometimes i thing people that comment on peoples work can be a little too brutal.

Two things: 1) you have to develop a skin if you're going to put something in front of an audience. Whether dance, music or painting, there are going to be people who love what you do and people who'll hate it. And the skill is to hear the germ behind the critique.

RE: cause i think the best way to build an artist is to give them a pat on the bach ,the rest they will learn in time

I disagree. A pat on the back is one thing, but sometimes a kick in the ass is good too. One of the reasons why visual art went from something of a craft with skill and training to the stereotypical foppish guy in a beret throwing random blotches of color on a board and calling it "Art" is because noone said "this is crap" when it first showed up. If we'd had the guts to take the works of Paul Klee and publicly burn them when they first showed up, then none of the rest of this dilletante nonsense would be plaguing us today.

A violin teacher will not accept sloppy fingering, nor will he accept off-tune notes or bad time keeping. If you're going to play the violin, damn it, you'd better hit every note on key. However, that being said, there's a difference between saying "I'm sorry, please stop there, we need to work on the way you hold that thing before anything else" and bringing a ruler down on the student's fingers, screaming "get that horrible yowling thing out of here!"



 
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3. "RE: Ideas for inspiration. Questions or answers."
 
yes that is also true about the way of approaching someone that is having a hard time,thats why i think some teachers are better then others...but what im most interested in was about the paintings that look like they were done by an elephant,(literally)and sell for thousands.
im always a little afraid to say what i think about them kind of paintings cause everyone always tells me that i should accept all forms of art,
but i search other artist work a lot...looking for realism only,but one night i ran into a site where they were selling these paintings that looked like my local 1st grade glass was showing their gallery...and they were asking like 5,000$ bucks for them
..i couldnt believe it...and some were even sold.....that wouldnt bug me at all as long as the artist that do them kind of paintings can prove that they can also paint as good as mr Antonov..
cause its almost like people that paint the strange looking shapes con the public into thinking that their globs of color are some precious mineral from another planet.?
keep in mind that i dont understand the politics of art that good
and i mainly think of myself as a student and fan of art ,more then i do an artist,
but when i think im right about something i dont mind speaking out,...so if i was ever at an art show...and there was an artist selling confusing looking paintings that dont resemble anything....
and was getting 10,000 $a peice for them...unless he can also paint realism...i would see him only as a con artist.....
i would probably even tell him that his paintings are the best
looking globs of garbage ive ever seen.
cause i think its a shame that people spend countless hours learning to paint like the masters...and they dont get 1/2 the credit as some guy thats obviously only been at it a week,..and cons people into thinking his work is something from the spirit world,...and you dont even know wich way to hang it on your wall..
..doesnt even matter cause nobody knows what them kind of paintings are unless the artist explains it...i want art that people understand...not something that comes with an instruction manual that explains what it is.
im by no means picking on fantasy artist...cause my favorite painter of all time does fantasy art...but its realistic fantasy art and its obvious that he learned realism before he started doing fantasy art.

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4. "Less is sometimes more"
 
  
Quote ...i think its a shame that people spend countless hours learning to paint like the masters...and they dont get 1/2 the credit as some guy thats obviously only been at it a week,..and cons people into thinking his work is something from the spirit world.

Should you really be calling it a "con" if by your own admission, you don't understand it?

The difference between a masterpiece and a finely crafted pastiche is TINY; but it's that difference that makes it so special.
Henri Matisse can make a simple A4 line drawing of a face in 5 minutes, that'll capture more of a person's character than a life-size heavily worked oil.
Most realistic paintings have little more artistic value than a cathedral make from matchsticks; whereas say Albers, can make 4 coloured squares evoke a summer's day (by carefully/intelligently choosing the dimenstions, tones, composition and finish.)

Think of a quality abstract picture as a precious stone, rather than a poor attempt at pornography.

Abstract Art: A product of the untalented, sold by the unprincipled to the utterly bewildered. - Al Capp


 
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5. "RE: Less is sometimes more"
 
well the only question i have..is how do people judge the quality of these abstracts?...do they base them on how much they resmble an actual object.?......i did admit i just dont understand those kind of paintings...and i appreciate ALL artist and would never pick on them....but as for a fine realistic painting not being worth as much as an abstract...i guess that all depends on who the buyer is.

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6. "This is not a pipe"
 
   No form of art's superior to any other; it's just my feeling that ostentatious people, who simply spend a year and a day painstakingly transcribing every microscopic detail they can see, are not on the same level as those pioneers that are prepared to be creative, thoughtful and take risks.

They're more like craftsmen; and are usually rewarded similarly.

We all know that art is not truth. Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth. - Pablo Picasso

Abstract Art's often a kind of metaphor, stripping things down to their most basic forms; focusing more on balance, harmony and tension than literal representation or narrative.
If done well, it can be really quite visceral and haunting.
My advice: Read the title, find out what the artist's intention was, and most importantly see how it makes you feel when viewing it and does it stay with you?


 
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7. "RE: This is not a pipe"
 
well i can agree with most of that...but i dont agree that a fine realistic painting/drawing etc that has countless hours rapped up in it ...is only worth as much as a cathedral made of match sticks....while an abstract is a pricless gem....after all....you said that no form of art is superior to another...so how can that be?

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8. "Clarification"
 
   Well, I did say 'who simply spend' i.e. do nothing more than.


 
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9. "RE: This is not a pipe"
 
Jim,
I have to jump in here (I know the post is old) but I agree with you. My parents have been avid art collectors for years. They have original Picasso's (some I hate some I LOVE) they and I have a few Rothe's (I love all of her work)Between the three of us we have over 100 works on our walls, but they have this one (can't think of the artist) they paid over $25K for and to my it is s**t! It is an oil with a grey background with tourquise triangles on it. It is about 4' x 5-6' and to me is an eye sore. It now stands in my brothers apt. and everytime I am there I think WHY would anyone buy that! I recently asked them why they did and do you know what they said? Because the value would be great in the years to come. They purchased this piece in the early 80's and I have no idea what the price is now but I wouldn't give a nickle for it. BUT, others who see it marvel at it.
The expression with art to me is to each his own. Some works a person loves and some they hate while others are the exact opposite. My Mother loves Vincent VanGogh, I don't like his works but I like Monet. Both are extreamly talented artist but not everyone liked their style.
Being a pencil artist teaches you that people don't put into account the amount of hours put into a work. A lot of people don't feel drawings are true art worth collecting, but some do. I too am trying to understand who a splash of paint on a canvas is art and worth 1000's but maybe with an open mind one day I too will see the beauty in it. After all art is beauty.
Equine and Western Art by: S. Baldwin


 


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