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Subject: "Oil Painting Techniques."  
         
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"Oil Painting Techniques."
 
Here you can share your experiences in oil painting: you can ask questions and receive answers, share your findings and get advice from others.

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dreamer
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Sep-07-02, 09:24 AM ()
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3. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques...painting on glass"
 
   Hello there good people,
Has anyone ever tried painting on glass in oils? Was wondering if you ran into the same problems.

Les


 
Valentino
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Sep-09-02, 05:40 AM ()
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4. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques."
 
   Here is a copy of my reply from old forum:
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Mr Antonov,

I would like to clear up my point (in case I was not clear enough in my previous posts), and - with all due respect - to react on your notes on paints Rubens used (http://www.1art.com/tips.htm#Flemish).
I am not chemist nor conservator, though I read every article on painting technology and painting chemistry I can find, because archival quality of my painting is of great importance to me.
When I mentioned that, in my opinion, we would be more faithful to the spirit of old masters if we use the best art material available today, I meant that if old masters were alive today, they would do the same thing.
Perhaps Leonardo, who was very fond of experimenting, would try acrylics or alkyds, who knows

Every painter choose material that best suit his/her needs. My intend was not to patronize fellow artists, but I have read and heard enough on that subject (from serious artists and scholars) to participate on an open forum like this.

Since you asked me to show you available substitutes for old masters' pigments, I can only say that it is not necessary (I have never claimed that all those pigments should be substituted). Painters who lived prior to 18th century have not had a lot of reliable paints available, so their palettes consisted mostly of earths, which was good, because ochres, umbres, siennas, etc are among the most permanent pigments known.
However, some of their paints were less stable - Rose Madder (NR9), for instance.
It is a dye made from the dried roots of the herbaceous perennial rubia tinctorium. The plant was brought to Italy by the returning Crusaders, and became important as an artist's pigment after it was imported to Holland in the 16th century. It contains two organic colorants: the orange purpurin and the deep carmine alizarin. Both pigments are impermanent, but purpurin is especially fugitive.
Rose Madder (Madder Lake) has a beautiful hue, but because of the reasons I have explained, I use Quinacridone Rose or some of the cool red DPP pigments (PR255, PR264).
Besides being a painter, I teach art history, but I can not say for sure anything on Rubens' palette, except what I read in scholars' papers.
I am sure your knowledge of flemish technique is considerable.
However, I doubt that Rubens used Prussian Blue (PB 27).
That, green-blue mineral (ferric ferrocyanide) color was the first modern, artificially manufactured paint. It was made by the colormaker Diesbach of Berlin in about 1704. Diesbach accidentally formed the blue pigment when experimenting with the oxidation of iron. The pigment was available to artists by 1724. Rubens died in 1640.


 
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5. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques."
 
   Woo, now I am impressed. I'm picky about my paint and only by the best, but I am impressed.
How do you think pigments would hold up in an A+B thermal polymer over time. Looking for a way to create liquid stain glass for painting on glass. Considering a UV hardden polymer the the thurmal requires less technology.
Christian Seidler
Marshall, Texas


 
catnobu
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6. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques."
 
   I haven't quite got the hang of this site yet, so I apologize in advance if my question is posted in the wrong location or has already been addressed...

I'm having ongoing problems with paint drying matte and glossy in different areas within the same painting. Generally speaking, the shadow areas are drying glossy and the opaque lights matte. This problem remains whether I'm using the damar based medium prescribed in the "Classical Oil Painting Video Workshop", or any other medium I've tried. Is a final varnish the only way to achieve a somewhat homogenous surface? Just can't seem to get the all-over satin finish I'm looking for...


 
rmn1
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Jan-15-03, 12:00 PM ()
 
7. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques."
 
   I am having a similar problem and would like some advice. I painted background with nice clean vertical strokes. I later added a color that I did not like, and wipe it off with a cloth and terp. Now the area that was wipe clean has a dull appearance versus the more glossy vertical strokes next to it. Any way to get rid of the dullness on that patch?

Thanks.

Quote I haven't quite got the hang of this site yet, so I apologize in advance if my question is posted in the wrong location or has already been addressed...

I'm having ongoing problems with paint drying matte and glossy in different areas within the same painting. Generally speaking, the shadow areas are drying glossy and the opaque lights matte. This problem remains whether I'm using the damar based medium prescribed in the "Classical Oil Painting Video Workshop", or any other medium I've tried. Is a final varnish the only way to achieve a somewhat homogenous surface? Just can't seem to get the all-over satin finish I'm looking for...



 
Simon
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8. "RE: Oil Painting Techniques."
 
   Lets have some expert opinions on th different mediums + oils. I am going to try Poppyseed oil as this was the choice of the old masters. But, the painting can be covered by a 'fernissage', that is to say a gloss similar to the coating on photos.

Some advice please!

For anybody who doesn't know the Swedish painter 'Zorn', he was something else.......he was coincidentally one of the richest people in Sweden thanks to his portrait income, he was also a wicked sculptor!

Talking of wicked Sculptors, my brother is qualified in this category!

Andrew Thomas: woodworker extraodinary.......3d sculptor

Take it easy
Simon Thomas


 


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