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"Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
Hi to everyone!
here is my commission painting I was talking about.
I am just start finishing layer, most difficult part for me is keyboard it's supposed to be done perfectly specially when client professional musician.
I am little bit not satisfied with too much dark negative space, probably I should power up highlights from the window on the background, and make this brush with little flowers on some more aggressive. Anyway please let me know what do you think.









 
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1. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
I am not qualified to critic oil paintings but I wanted to tell you that this is beautiful!!!

I don't think I would "power up" the background, I think it's neutral and so it should be, but i would definitely give more strength to the brush flowers. On the screen at least, it seems that they are disappearing in the background.

And your work on the glass is awesome!


Anne-Claire Tavares


 
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2. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
   Dear Mr.Antonov,

Firslty, It is a very good painting. It will be easier tp critique the painting if you also post a photo of the compositon that your painting from.

I think that the keyboard is painted very well. It only needes a few more sharp highlights. I also think that the white keys need a little more definition to differentiate between all the keys. I would also paint musical notes on the pieces of paper to make it fit with the composition more. It also would look good too. The flowers in the jar also need a little more definition. However, don't define them too much due to aerial perspective. I wouldn't brighten the background too much because it will take away all the attention from the objects in the foreground. It would've been easier if you had lighten up the foreground in the beginning stages of the painting.

Finally, did you use the 7 layer technique or a shortcut to paint this? Painting something this size is large and as a result expensive. A lot of paint is required and it would take a while to work on one stage(especially the dead layer)



 
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3. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
I'm not qualified to really critique oil paintings, either, but I really love this painting! It's very beautiful! I don't think the background needs any more highlights, either, and I think the keys on piano look good. I was wondering about the papers being blank, too, but I'm not sure if putting music on it would distract from the rest of the painting or not... I suppose it would look good, but it's hard for me to say.

- Melissa (aka: Honey Bee)


 
Carl T
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4. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
:-) Alexei,
First I am pleased to find your Website, complete with realistic Art discussions, a very pleasant and lucky find for me.

You are a very talented Artist, and I can see the hard work you have put in to develop your talent. The forms you develope, with your sensitive value control and fresh color, are outstandingly beautiful. The comments you have recieved are all excellent and good suggestions (especially the music notes to add visual interest and yes those flowers could be a bit more defined).

What is outstanding and what works in the painting, is already obvious even though it is unfinished. Please take the following as an attempt at constructive suggestion only, about what has occured to me as not currently working in the image. Keep in mind I'm thinking of the painting as I see it in the photo, not as it is or will be, when finished.

I picked up the same feel as you, a liitle dissatisfaction for the large negative space. The top half is somewhat empty, the top left quarter of the canvas particularly, even though you have visual interest there with color highlights. The piano form currently fades into the background very strongly on the bottom left as well, adding negative space on the bottom left side. This seems to throw the balance of the piece to the right a tad over much. Some cropping off of the top (so the diagonal goes off the top just before the corner) feels immeadiately better, but makes the canvas more square (plus who wants to re-stretch so cropping is not a solution).

Defining the piano form on the bottom left as a little more distinct from the background may help there.

Perhaps a drapery kept back in space or some element on the top left side could add visual activity without distracting from the center of interest. Also a drapery or element could be brought down far enough to block the secondary diagonal (the one just above the diagonal piano top?) from pointing out of the frame. That area strikes me as a large abstract arrow pointing left, and though the transparent cloth turns the eye back into the picture where the piano top is concerned, as is, it does not do the trick for me with the additional faded diagonal that forms an arrow form, pointing out the left side of the picture.

It would not take much to stop this visual arrow flow, and I'm sure there are many other ways to handle the situations I've noticed. You may decide I'm mistaken in what I feel and percieve, or you may notice it in agreement. At any rate if you want to make changes, a little time in Photoshop will put you on the right track (better than changing as you go on canvas).

Again, the painting is a remarkably fine piece of Art in progress, showing much superior talent just as you have done it. My suggestions may help or hinder. In the end it is up to you the individual Artist, and that is how it needs to be. I know in my own work I often have looked at a piece so much, that I miss noticing some things until I see the piece weeks or months later. I can almost get hypnotised by looking at it so much, that I lose objectivity on some little this or that. I find if time allows, turning it to the wall for a week and not looking at it does wonders. A fresh eye comes back to it and you know what to do.

you do the most amazingly beautiful flowers. Thank you for the eye candy.

Carl


 
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6. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
   Dear Mr. Antonov,
your picture is beatufull. It is silly to start criticize your level of accuracy and confedence. Let me mark some things I would do if I managed to come to last layer of this picture:
1. I would agree with Gwer and would not worry about more light onto background I would live it as it is. As for flowers I would add one more branch in between of them and leave so fluffy as they are.
2. Yellow rose and jug are perfect. As for red rose I would put more shadow on the half of blossom and stem as well as keyboard under them. Also I would put some shadow on bent down part of bottom piece of musical notes. Otherwise it seems like you have two sourse of light: one main from left and one more with half intensity from back left (behind your left sholder).
3. What do you think about beam of sun light which is highlighting yellow rose already, will highlight just a bit of red rose and leave glossy highlight on the left side of the piano?..

Please show the shot of your dead layer and do not forget to show us finised picture.
Best regards,
Eugene:-)


 
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7. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
   I love your work on small close up subjects but I feel that the depth is lacking. The piano doesn't recede into the picture plane. You have focused on the details and have not the picture as a whole. Your color is rich but I don't believe that you use a broad enough range of neutralization of your color to create the illusion of extreme depth within the composition.

Also, It's nice to see a disciplined painter on the net and you have done a wonderful job at building your site.


 
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8. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
   Well, the more I look at it, it may be the recorded image that seems lacking in neutralization. I see and know those pigments in the background, but the image doesn't let you feel dept like I would expect. If it's in there, then all I can say is composition in the only weak link.
The camera is tricky, is this film? Looks digital.


 
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9. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
Anne-Claire Tavares thank you!
That is what I am going to do: more strength to the brush flowers.
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Quer!
Thank you. I will definitely put some music notes. Problem is that I don’t read the musical notes. And I want to ask if someone can read them and try to find the visible obvious mistakes. My client is a professional musician and my artistic ignorance of the musical grammar could become a horrible mistake.
Yes, I’ve made this painting without the dead layer.
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Thank you, Melissa:
Unfortunately, I must make music notes.
Appreciate your compliments.
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Carl:
I will use some of your suggestions during the final layers.
Thank you very much for your deep and honest analysis of my painting process.
By the way I like your site http://www.carlt-artwork.com/ and will kindly ask you to share with us some of your images and tell us about technique you are using.
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Eugene:
Thank you for your “shadow” suggestions that will definitely help me to get rid of the unpleasant contrast between the black piano and the rest of the subjects.
There is no dead layer, sorry (but this shortcut is definitely a wrong way to learn this technique).
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Pappie:
Thank you for your critiques and complements. I figured out that I did not prepare myself well enough for this horribly black piano. I should have thought about this absolutely negative space during the sketches, right now I feel like couple more layers will not be enough. And I only hope to get lucky and find some way to deal with those pianos in the future.
Pappie, did you receive my letter?
I read your article several times (the one you’ve sent me), it is very, very hopeful and extremely inspirational.
Waiting for your call or letter.
Alexei.


 
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15. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
Here is the page with musical notes in the progress.
I need help to correct readable mistakes.
If anybody can read this music notes?





 
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16. "RE: Still life oil on canvas painting 36x48 by Alexei Antonov"
 
   Each measure (space between vertical bars) needs to have the same number of beats (2,3,4, etc.) unless there is a visual time signature change (for you, it looks like 3/4, changed to 2/4 halfway through). All you need to do is either put in that time signature change or add an extra beat to every... single... measure... you decide.


 


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